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ATLAS Project update – 614

Secondary school AT?  Then you should be familiar with and completed the ATLAS Project survey.

Today on the podcast John Ciecko catches Larry Cooper and Rob Huggins for an update on the ATLAS (Athletic Training Location and Services) program which started in 2015 as a joint initiative between the Korey Stringer Institute and the NATA.

The ATLAS project is designed to track to AT services, improve communication between athletic trainers and produce research for the advancement of the profession of Athletic Training in the secondary school setting.

ATLAS Project update

What are the updates from ATLAS?

Rob reports that ATLAS has had a successful year.  Over 13,488 schools are reporting AT services in the US and that is 66% of schools.  Over 16,000 AT’s have completed surveys in the last 2 years and they are finding an increased response rate from AT’s and schools.  

Why the increased response from Secondary AT’s?

Larry believes that the BOC adding a reminder at the end of our reporting document is aiding in more AT’s taking and re-taking the survey.  State levels continuing to push it at the grassroots level are also helping.

The state of Florida is only 70 schools away from 100% participation, and the goal is for every state to reach that level.

How does ATLAS help AT’s in the secondary setting?

Data collected and reported from ATLAS to the individual states is helping push legislation through for things like AT presence at every school and cold water immersion tubs.

“ATLAS supports the policy initiatives that are making even bigger impacts in this country than this project is.”

Aside from the numbers of which schools have AT’s, what else do we learn from these surveys?

We are learning about how socioeconomic status affects the likelihood of an AT being at a high school.  In the EATA Districts 1 and 2, there are 10 times greater odds of AT services in upper-class areas versus lower class and a 4 ½ time greater odds in middle versus lower class areas.

This information can help states or districts get AT services in those areas and present to those who have high stakes in youth athletics (NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB) and together we can come up with creative solutions to manage this public health crisis.

Has ATLAS had a direct effect on legislation?

Absolutely!  Recently in Arkansas, there was legislation brought forward threatening the practice act in that state for AT’s.  Jason Cates used that data while sitting with his legislator to show him the actual numbers of students, teachers, and families that would be affected if this law was passed and that data helped the legislator block the bill.

What is the future goal of ATLAS?

We would like to have 100% participation in the ATLAS survey and we would like the data we collect to drive AT services throughout the country so that every school has an AT.  

Rob encourages everyone in the secondary setting to please complete and update the survey each year.  He believes that ATLAS “can make the biggest impact in what is arguably the largest area for growth in our profession, secondary schools.”

If you have questions please reach out to Rob via email at robert.huggins@uconn.edu or Kelly.coleman@uconn.edu  Their goal is to return emails in 24-48 hours.

ATLAS Project update – Larry Cooper & Rob Huggins

ATLAS Project update – Larry Cooper & Rob Huggins

Posted by Sports Medicine Broadcast on Wednesday, June 26, 2019

Contact us:

Jeremy JacksonHost of The Sports Medicine Broadcast

John Ciecko – jciecko@bloomfield.org

Alisha M Penningtonalisha@theatvantage.com

Mike McKenney – m.mckenney@northeastern.edu

Mike Hopper – Mike.Hopper@bishoplynch.org

Clint Sanders – clint@dragonflyathletics.com

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Go4Ellis Update – 609

In another Go4Ellis update, founder Ellis Mair discusses some big news.

Ellis and her team were able to double not only the number of states using her online platform which connects Athletic Trainers to per diem work but also double the number of Athletic Trainers using the platform.

Always ready for a fun conversation, John Ciecko sits down with Ellis on the podcast live from NATA Las Vegas and discusses this accomplishment and many more.

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Ellis states that attending 8 of the 10 NATA district conference meetings and reaching out to every state head explaining the background, goals, and mission of Go4Ellis has certainly helped grow the platform.  

She also explains working from the top to bottom approaching leadership first is critical to communicating the vision and educating. However, working from the bottom up and reaching out to AT’s in certain communities to build growth in each state was important too.

What exciting new partnerships are happening with Go4Ellis?

A new partnership with US Lacrosse began this year requiring a mandatory AT per every 3 fields at every US lacrosse event.  

A partnership with Players Health EMR allows AT working these lacrosse events to create injury reports. These injury reports are then able to collect data for epidemiology reports being researched by MedStar.  

What makes Go4Ellis beneficial to the athletic trainer and the profession of Athletic Training as a whole?

Athletic Trainers are able to work per diem to earn extra money when they are available or when they may be facing additional upcoming expenses. 

But by increasing the presence of Athletic Trainers’ at a variety of athletic events, including most recently a rise in Quidditch events, Go4Ellis helps increase exposure athletes have to Athletic Trainers’.

We also ontinue to educate National Governing Boards of a variety of youth sports on the importance and necessity of an AT at all of their events and give us as Athletic Trainers’ an opportunity at each per diem event to educate and advocate for our profession. 

Can you only make money by working an event?

No, through their 4werks.com referral system, AT’s can refer an organization or event to Go4Ellis for coverage and if the event runs that AT will receive a check for 125.00.

What are Ellis’ future goals for this next year?

Increase the number of operators of events, AT’s involved as both operator’s and per diem and partner with more NGB’s. 

Be actively working in all 50 states.

Renew partnerships with the NATA and become more involved in data collection on the field. 

Work the Players Health EMR into their app.  

Need more Go4Ellis info?

If you would like to contact Ellis Mair feel free to email her at Ellis@go4ellis.com  As you’ll hear during the podcast, she is really good about returning emails quickly.

Contact us:

Jeremy JacksonHost of The Sports Medicine Broadcast

John Ciecko – jciecko@bloomfield.org

Alisha M Penningtonalisha@theatvantage.com

Mike McKenney – m.mckenney@northeastern.edu

Mike Hopper – Mike.Hopper@bishoplynch.org

Clint Sanders – clint@dragonflyathletics.com

These people LOVE ATs and help the SMB pay the bills:


Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

MioTech – meeting all of your sports medicine supply needs

PhysicalTherapy.com – use promo code “1FREECOURSE” to start for free

DragonflyMax – one-stop EMR

HOIST – no matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some, be entered in a drawing for a second-year free and support the podcast.

David Gallegos discusses COPA – 601

What is COPA?

Have you ever asked yourself what COPA stands for and what purpose they serve the membership of the NATA?

Today on the podcast David Gallegos from District 7 and the current director of COPA or the Committee on Practice Advancement joins Alisha M Pennington live from the Dragonfly Max Podcast Lounge.

David Gallegos discusses COPA

Why is COPA a committee and not a council?

At its formation, they took into consideration what the membership was asking for and what they needed.  They realized that there was a variety of emerging settings within athletic training and they wanted to have a broader perspective and more voices. 

To meet that need COPA consists of 10 committees that each has 3 members and 1 chair (8 practice-based committees, 1 analytics and outcome, and 1 public health) and these committees represent the future of practice advancement.

What need does COPA address?

David believes that representation matters.  We give a voice to the variety of emerging settings in Athletic Training and offers members resources to help them investigate these emerging settings and connect with other professionals in these settings. 

Since June 2018 they have been tracking their progress and have seen improvements.

What is the triple aim of health care and how can data and analytics benefit athletic training?

The triple aim of health care is the simultaneous pursuit of:

  • Improving the patient experience of care
  • Improving the health of populations while
  • Reducing per capita cost in health care

The sub-committee on Data and Analytics has been able to use data from Bobby Lee a health care economist to help show how athletic trainers in a variety of settings can improve the triple aim of health care.  Bobby Lee’s data showed that an AT in a secondary school reduced the costs of Medicare/Medicaid by 10-12%.  

What Does David think will be the leading job settings in the future of athletic training?

COPA settings allow people to move back and forth between settings as an athletic trainer that match where they are in their life at that time.  

How can you help COPA and the NATA?

Realize that COPA is part of the NATA.  Speak up if there is a setting you want to investigate or be a part of the committee.  Get involved and be the change you wish to see

Call to Action:

Tag us on social media posts so we can help you grow in an area you need.

COPA – David Gallegos

COPA – David Gallegos

Posted by Sports Medicine Broadcast on Tuesday, June 25, 2019

Contact us:

David Gallegos – d7director@rmata.org

Jeremy JacksonHost of The Sports Medicine Broadcast

John Ciecko – jciecko@bloomfield.org

Alisha M Penningtonalisha@theatvantage.com

Mike McKenney – m.mckenney@northeastern.edu

Mike Hopper – Mike.Hopper@bishoplynch.org

Clint Sanders – clint@dragonflyathletics.com

These people LOVE ATs and help the SMB pay the bills:


Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

MioTech – meeting all of your sports medicine supply needs

PhysicalTherapy.com – use promo code “1FREECOURSE” to start for free

DragonflyMax – one-stop EMR

HOIST – no matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some, be entered in a drawing for a second-year free and support the podcast.

COPA, Dragonfly Max, Frio Hydration

Own Your Impact – 597

Do YOU Own Your Impact as an Athletic Trainer?

What does “Own Your Impact” look like for leadership

Tory Lindley hit the ground running when he was elected president of the NATA in June of 2018.  During the NATA symposium in June 2019, Alisha M Pennington caught up with him to talk about his vision for athletic trainers to Own Their Impact, what we can do as individuals to advocate for the profession and what the NATA board of directors and 29 committees have been working on to continue to elevate the profession in every setting.

Own Your Impact

Tory's biggest accomplishment since taking office?

The collaborative agreement between the NATA and APTA.  There is now a door open and expectation that the national level of collaboration will have some effect on the ways that AT’s are practicing at the state level.

What can we do on a daily basis to Own Your Impact and advocate for the profession?

Every athletic trainer has an individual responsibility to advocate for the profession and to advocate for ourselves.  

“If you look like health care individually then the advocacy thing happens because people are paying attention.”  Tory Lindley

Every AT needs to get their NPI. 

Even if you aren’t going to be billing at the third party level, you need to register because it is how we are counted as health care professionals.

What initiatives will Tory investigate and pursue?

CMS recognition will help with not only billing but also for recognition and acceptance as a health care profession.

Salary initiatives for increases in a variety of settings and also ensure that we close the gender gap.

What does Own Your Impact look like to Tory?

“We are super humble as health care providers.  We like to work behind the scenes, and yet we can still be humble and be bold enough to tell our story when it makes sense to have our story told.”

All AT’s have an opportunity through social media to write their narrative.  To talk about things that they are doing and educating people on a daily basis of what we do.

How will we continue to see great things continue to happen?

“When the AT is given the opportunity to practice at the top of their skill set, great things will always happen.  We need to make sure that is something every AT can do.”

Ever wondered what Firefly Recovery is?

Jeremy closes out the podcast today by talking to Anthony Kjenstad from Firefly Recovery about the products from Firefly that can help with increasing blood flow to decrease recovery time and help with delayed onset muscle soreness.  

The product is being promoted by athletic trainers who have been using the tool in their training rooms and have had success.  

You can find more information on Firefly Recovery here or catch them on Instagram @fireflyrecovery

Contact us:

Jeremy JacksonHost of The Sports Medicine Broadcast

John Ciecko – jciecko@bloomfield.org

Alisha M Penningtonalisha@theatvantage.com

Mike McKenney – m.mckenney@northeastern.edu

Mike Hopper – Mike.Hopper@bishoplynch.org

Clint Sanders – clint@dragonflyathletics.com

These people LOVE ATs and help the SMB pay the bills:


Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

MioTech – meeting all of your sports medicine supply needs

PhysicalTherapy.com – use promo code “1FREECOURSE” to start for free

DragonflyMax – one-stop EMR

HOIST – no matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some, be entered in a drawing for a second-year free and support the podcast.

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Sue Falsone talks Multidisciplinary Professional – 594

Are you a Barrier Breaker?

Today on the podcast we have Sue Falsone PT, MS, SCS, ATC, CSCS, COMT, owner of Structure and Function and author of, “Bridging the Gap From Rehab to Performance.”  Click on her name to learn more about her and her business.

Sue Falsone talks Multidisciplinary Professional; Alisha Pennington

Similar to Jackie Robinson?

Sue broke the barrier of women head athletic trainer’s in the major 4 professional sports in 2012 when she was hired by the LA Dodgers. 

But on today’s podcast, we focus less on being someone who breaks barriers and more about being really good at our craft, athletic training.

Are you as good as Sue Falsone?

Sue has many initials after her name and has spent time in a variety of settings including running a cash-based treatment business. 

During the episode, she shares why she believes being multidisciplinary is to her and the patients she treats advantage.

A one-liner take home from Sue Falsone

“There are plenty of jobs I didn’t get because I was a female.  I don’t choose to focus on that.”

Want to get started?

If you are a female AT business owner,  an AT interested in starting your own cash-based practice, or need to change what you are focusing on, this episode is the perfect listen.

Share your story with us on social media.

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Multidisciplinary professional/ female business owner – Sue Falsone

Multidisciplinary professional/ female business owner – Sue Falsone

Posted by Sports Medicine Broadcast on Tuesday, June 25, 2019

Contact us:

Sue Falsone – sue@suefalsone.com

Jeremy JacksonHost of The Sports Medicine Broadcast

John Ciecko – jciecko@bloomfield.org

Alisha M Penningtonalisha@theatvantage.com

Mike McKenney – m.mckenney@northeastern.edu

Mike Hopper – Mike.Hopper@bishoplynch.org

Clint Sanders – clint@dragonflyathletics.com

These people LOVE ATs and help the SMB pay the bills:


Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

MioTech – meeting all of your sports medicine supply needs

PhysicalTherapy.com – use promo code “1FREECOURSE” to start for free

DragonflyMax – one-stop EMR

HOIST – no matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some, be entered in a drawing for a second-year free and support the podcast.

PhysicalTherapy.com; 1freecourse; continued; Sue Falsone

Challenging the Status Quo – 590

Kent Games Coaching is all about challenging the status quo. He was one of the youngest professors to be offered tenure. Kent was obtaining his dream job at his alma mater.

But that wasn't enough. He still felt empty.

Challenging the Status Quo

Dr. Kent Games began evaluating his life through these questions:

  • Did I LIVE?
  • Did I LOVE?
  • Did I MATTER?

Alisha is always growing and challenging the status quo

If you follow Alisha Pennington, owner of ATvantage, on social media she readily admits to her lack of confidence, her need for approval, her attempts to hide doubts and fears.

She has learned to embrace those doubts and fears and test them.

Live from NATA 2019

DragonflyMax hosted the podcast lounge again this year and we had a phenomenal team of hosts and workers to put on a fantastic show.

Kent and Alisha answer three big questions:

  • Why
  • How
  • What

Following the Simon Sinek book Start With Why and the follow up Find Your Why Kent and Alisha work through the foundation of what it takes to challenge the status quo.

Some bits of knowledge from the conversation:

Finding your why is as much about what it is is NOT as is it about what it IS

As professionals, we find there is not one cookie-cutter path, but as students, we are often lead to believe that A+B+C = D and that is how it should work.

The more you give your self permission to listen and explore that quiet whisper the louder your why will become. We are trained to tune it out and follow the leader.

Alisha kept pressing forward looking for that feeling of “I have arrived” but it was never there. She came to learn it is about the journey and not the destination.

Ther are many more helpful and insightful lessons form the podcast. listen to it as many times as you need to.

How are you CHALLENGING THE STATUS QUO?

Tweet us pictures of how you are challenging the status Quo #ChallengeStatusQuo to @MrJeremyJackson @MrsAMPennington @GamesKenneth

Mindset/ Self Care/ Challenging the Status Quo – Kenneth Games

Mindset/ Self Care/ Challenging the Status Quo – Kenneth Games

Posted by Sports Medicine Broadcast on Tuesday, June 25, 2019

Contact us:

Jeremy JacksonHost of The Sports Medicine Broadcast

John Ciecko – jciecko@bloomfield.org

Alisha M Penningtonalisha@theatvantage.com

Mike McKenney – m.mckenney@northeastern.edu

Mike Hopper – Mike.Hopper@bishoplynch.org

Clint Sanders – clint@dragonflyathletics.com

These people LOVE ATs and help the SMB pay the bills:


Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

MioTech – meeting all of your sports medicine supply needs

PhysicalTherapy.com – use promo code “1FREECOURSE” to start for free

DragonflyMax – one-stop EMR

HOIST – no matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some, be entered in a drawing for a second-year free and support the podcast.

Sportz Factory – 587

Dr. Erin Hassler owns Sportz Factory

Dr. Hassler's Bio from SportzFactory.com:

The Sportz Factory has a combined experience of over 20 years in Sports Health Science and the Sports Performance industry.  

Leading the way is Dr. Erin Hassler, with almost 2 decades of hands-on experience at multiple levels of Sports Medicine and Sports Performance Enhancement.  

Credentials include but are not limited to the Advisory Board of Athletic Trainers, Board of Certification and National Academy of Sports Medicine Performance Enhancement Specialist.​

Since beginning her career as Head Athletic Trainer for Channelview Independent School District in 2000, she has enjoyed industry success as either a staff or contract Athletic Trainer for several organizations in Houston and surrounding areas.  

Dr. Hassler has practiced sports medicine in both public and private school systems the WNBA – Houston Comets and the US Olympic Committee. 

Now as a volunteer medical provider with USA Track and Field, she has served on international teams, including travel to Canada, South America, and Europe. 

She will represent the USA team in the 2019 IAAF World Outdoor Championships.

Sportz Factory

What else besides Sportz Factory?

While in Las Vegas, Erin took part in the Sisterhood Breakfast: Women of Color not necessarily ATs, but many women gather together. Headed by Dr. Rene Shingles, NATA Hall of Famer, the first African American woman inducted. Dr. Marsha Grant-Ford, first African American woman certified.

Related Episodes:

Women in Atheltic Training Inc.

International Women's Day

Contact us:

Dr. Erin Hassler – Sportz Factory

Jeremy JacksonHost of The Sports Medicine Broadcast

John Ciecko – jciecko@bloomfield.org

Alisha M Penningtonalisha@theatvantage.com

Mike McKenney – m.mckenney@northeastern.edu

Mike Hopper – Mike.Hopper@bishoplynch.org

Clint Sanders – clint@dragonflyathletics.com

These people LOVE ATs and help the SMB pay the bills:


Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

MioTech – meeting all of your sports medicine supply needs

PhysicalTherapy.com – use promo code “1FREECOURSE” to start for free

DragonflyMax – one-stop EMR

HOIST – no matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some, be entered in a drawing for a second-year free and support the podcast.

State Advocacy with Kevin King – 584

North Carolina and Kevin King are killing State Advocacy

Currently an assistant Athletic Trainer for the Carolina Panthers, Kevin King has helped lead North Carolina to many great achievements in State advocacy and PR.

Kevin is a co-chair of the NCAT PR committee

In the interview, Alisha discusses the Ballerina Project with Kevin and where they partnered with a dance studio and photographed dancers to create injury prevention posters and videos.

State Advocacy with Kevin King

Kevin King is a Bowtie Guy

One of the NCATA flags was made into a bowtie and sold as a limited edition fundraiser for part of their state advocacy efforts.

While chatting with Kevin after the podcast People were asking where they could get one, but as he said, they are limited edition.

You can find your own style with The Two Guys Bowtie

Life Balance

I recently interviewed an NFL AT and the biggest concern was life balance and raising a family.

Alisha and Kevin King are both life balance people. We try not to use work/ life balance because work is part of your life that needs to stay in balance. trying to completely separate them causes more problems.

A few tips from Kevin:

  • Start with a solid staff understanding
  • When at home, be at home
  • A partner you can connect with is EVERYTHING

Check out the live conversation on Facebook

State Advocacy & Working in the Pros/ with the Panthers

State Advocacy & Working in the Pros/ with the Panthers – Kevin King

Posted by Sports Medicine Broadcast on Tuesday, June 25, 2019

Contact us:

Jeremy JacksonHost of The Sports Medicine Broadcast

John Ciecko – jciecko@bloomfield.org

Alisha M Penningtonalisha@theatvantage.com

Mike McKenney – m.mckenney@northeastern.edu

Mike Hopper – Mike.Hopper@bishoplynch.org

Clint Sanders – clint@dragonflyathletics.com

These people LOVE ATs and help the SMB pay the bills:


Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

MioTech – meeting all of your sports medicine supply needs

PhysicalTherapy.com – use promo code “1FREECOURSE” to start for free

DragonflyMax – one-stop EMR

HOIST – no matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some, be entered in a drawing for a second-year free and support the podcast.

Third Party Billing – 581

What is Third Party Billing?

Third Party Billing means a patient comes in to see the AT and the AT sends the bill for payment to the insurance company. It does not mean you are working at a clinic and being paid hourly by the general fund, but you are billing for services as a PT or DC would.

Who is Joe Greene?

Started at the University of Wisconsin Hospital in 1991

Through various roles at the hospital, he was able to quickly move into an administrative role. Coupled with his state leadership roles, He was really able to look at Third Party Billing a make an impact.

2001 Implemented Autonomous Billing in Wisconsin

What is Orthovise?

The company Joe started to work with physicians and continue growing the autonomous billing aspect of Athletic Training.

2016 NATA issued an RFP pilot project to Joe Green and his team as the pioneer in 3rd party billing

What are the goals of the third party reimbursement project?

Ensure ATs receive reimbursement by insurance companies consistent with other allied healthcare providers. If a PT does manual therapy billed at $60/hour, then the AT acting within their scope doing the same task can be reimbursed at $60/hour.

Secure Consistent recognition of Athletic Trainers as allied health care professionals

What has the pilot study revealed?

  • When ATs bill according to the policy they are reimbursed at a consistent level
  • There are some gaps in analysis
  • Are AT as cost-effective?

What Education is going on with this?

Payor (consumer) and Employers (hospitals/physician) are both needing education

ATs need to be able to bill correctly using the correct codes

Third Party Billing

Third Party Billing Resources from Joe

Check out Orthovise.com for a growing list of resources but here are a few:

Third Party Billing – Joe Greene

Third Party Billing – Joe Greene

Posted by Sports Medicine Broadcast on Tuesday, June 25, 2019

Contact us:

Todd Sabol – todd@sportsmediscussion.com

Joe Greene – joegreene@orthovise.com

Jeremy JacksonHost of The Sports Medicine Broadcast

John Ciecko – jciecko@bloomfield.org

Alisha M Penningtonalisha@theatvantage.com

Mike McKenney – m.mckenney@northeastern.edu

Mike Hopper – Mike.Hopper@bishoplynch.org

Clint Sanders – clint@dragonflyathletics.com

These people LOVE ATs and help the SMB pay the bills:


Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

MioTech – meeting all of your sports medicine supply needs

PhysicalTherapy.com – use promo code “1FREECOURSE” to start for free

DragonflyMax – one-stop EMR

HOIST – no matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some, be entered in a drawing for a second-year free and support the podcast.

PhysicalTherapy.com; 1freecourse; continued

100K Side Job – Tim Neal – 578

100K Side Job

Have you ever had a 100K side Job?

If you say “I have a 100k Side Job” you are going to be hounded for followers or ridiculed by haters.

Tim Neal was killing it as an Athletic Trainer making upwards of 200K.

He joins us live a the Dragonfly Max Podcast Lounge in Las Vegas to share his story.

Have reservations about starting a business?

Tim watched his dad run a successful business and kinda always had the drive in him to create his own.

I recently started my own business in the Sports Medicine Broadcast. I have shared my story in episode 552.

I was always afraid to start a business as I have seen how much my dad struggles to own one. My conversation with Rob and Casey helped me to get started on the path, but Innovate really moved me to start

I met Tim Neal in a group for Athletic Trainers who are innovating the industry. If you are innovating or want to innovate, come join us at InnovateAT on facebook

Want to check out the live video:

$100,000 Side Job – Tim Neal

$100,000 Side Job – Tim Neal

Posted by Sports Medicine Broadcast on Tuesday, June 25, 2019

More About Tim:

From a small town Texas – Greenville, Texas

Did not have an AT in high school, his first exposure was as Texas A&M Commerce

Started working contract work for a PT clinic

Figured out he was pretty good at assembling the coverage and care for large scale events.

Got fired for putting together a proposal to grow his employer's business.

He turned the firing into a job that he turned into a business that has turned into a dream.

Contact Us

Tim Neal – Tim.neal@kinetixfsm.com

Jeremy JacksonHost of The Sports Medicine Broadcast

John Ciecko – jciecko@bloomfield.org

Alisha M Penningtonalisha@theatvantage.com

Mike McKenney – m.mckenney@northeastern.edu

Mike Hopper – Mike.Hopper@bishoplynch.org

Clint Sanders – clint@dragonflyathletics.com

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These people LOVE ATs and help the SMB pay the bills:


Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

MioTech – meeting all of your sports medicine supply needs

PhysicalTherapy.com – use promo code “1FREECOURSE” to start for free

DragonflyMax – one-stop EMR

HOIST – no matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some, be entered in a drawing for a second-year free and support the podcast.